The phrase Muslim scientists, to judge from this, turns out to be something of an oxymoron:

Muslim scientists and clerics have called for the adoption of Mecca time to replace GMT, arguing that the Saudi city is the true centre of the Earth.

Mecca is the direction all Muslims face when they perform their daily prayers.

The call was issued at a conference held in the Gulf state of Qatar under the title: Mecca, the Centre of the Earth, Theory and Practice.

One geologist argued that unlike other longitudes, Mecca’s was in perfect alignment to magnetic north.

He said the English had imposed GMT on the rest of the world by force when Britain was a big colonial power, and it was about time that changed.

A prominent cleric, Sheikh Youssef al-Qaradawy, said modern science had at last provided evidence that Mecca was the true centre of the Earth; proof, he said, of the greatness of the Muslim “qibla” – the Arabic word for the direction Muslims turn to when they pray.

The meeting also reviewed what has been described as a Mecca watch, the brainchild of a French Muslim.

The watch is said to rotate anti-clockwise and is supposed to help Muslims determine the direction of Mecca from any point on Earth.

The meeting in Qatar is part of a popular trend in some Muslim societies of seeking to find Koranic precedents for modern science.

It is called “Ijaz al-Koran”, which roughly translates as the “miraculous nature of the holy text”.

The underlying belief is that scientific truths were also revealed in the Muslim holy book, and it is the work of scholars to unearth and publicise the textual evidence.

They don’t seem quite to have grasped the nature of the scientific method, do they?

But the movement is not without its critics, who say that the notion that modern science was revealed in the Koran confuses spiritual truth, which is constant, and empirical truth, which depends on the state of science at any given point in time.

Or is it that empirical truth is constant, and spiritual truth depends on which priest you’ve been talking to? One of those, anyway.

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8 responses to “Mecca Time”

  1. Dom Avatar
    Dom

    Remember Mecca Mean Time, and something about the blood’s oxygen? It was an earlier post of yours. These guys just don’t give up.

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  2. Mick H Avatar
    Mick H

    Yes I looked for that post and couldn’t find it. Oh well.

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  3. dearieme Avatar
    dearieme

    Who will nuke Mecca, do you suppose? The Chinese?

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  4. dearieme Avatar
    dearieme

    Or President ClintonII, on taking office after poor President Obama has been assassinated? By Muslims. Allegedly.

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  5. TDK Avatar
    TDK

    Or is it that empirical truth is constant, and spiritual truth depends on which priest you’ve been talking to?
    No, James Hansen & Steve McIntyre have conflicting views on empirical truth. One or both of them are wrong.
    Clearly there is something called “Truth” independent of people, and experience is a means to understand it better. Empirical truth is neither constant nor a fixed body of knowledge. That is surely its advantage over revealed truth. Disagreements are not the fundamental problem. Rather it is the fact that at no point are the priests prepared to toss out the holy book.
    The value of science is that we never say “this is the answer” or “the science is settled”. Imagine a school science textbook being sent into space and subsequently discovered by a primitive species on another world, who make it their holy book. Whilst it may initially be better than the Bible or Koran, if they don’t develop a scientific method to extend the knowledge, then the limits of the book will soon be reached. It then becomes revealed truth little better than the Bible. It’s the method that gave us the book that’s valuable, not the book at any point in time.
    So I reverse your statement:
    “is it that empirical truth is capable of improvement, whilst spiritual truth is frozen into indefensible positions?”

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  6. DaninVan Avatar
    DaninVan

    “The watch is said to rotate anti-clockwise and is supposed to help Muslims determine the direction of Mecca from any point on Earth.”
    Seems appropriate. Everything else about it is backwards…

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  7. Mick H Avatar
    Mick H

    Good points, TDK: I’ll buy that.

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