Even by the standards of CiF, Nicholas Blincoe’s article is, well, a little bit odd:

So many able commentators have waded into the Terry Eagleton-Martin Amis-Ronan Bennett-Christopher Hitchens confrontation that any contribution from me would be redundant. Yet a side issue has kept tugging at my sleeve, demanding attention: namely, Martin Amis’s attack on relativism. As long as I can remember, moral relativists have been villains. They are denounced by politicians and columnists, as well as by archbishops, imams and rabbis. My problem is this: has anyone ever actually met a moral relativist?

That’s the start, and that’s perhaps the only part that makes sense. It’s completely wrong-headed – yes, moral relativism is a common enough viewpoint, notably among post-modernists and apologists for extremism, though what we’re talking about here I think is more like its close relation, multi-culturalism – but at least it’s clear what he’s saying. But then the argument veers off in unexpected directions:

Our fear and dislike of relativism is surprising when one considers science and economics. Modern physics is all about forces and vectors, which can only be expressed in terms of relative measurements (whether “miles per hour” or E=MC squared). When Margaret Thatcher said, “You cannot buck the market”, she was arguing that all the variables of the world economy are so complex that they are beyond government planning. Yet she was relaxed about this dizzying relativism. Why are we happy to contemplate a logic of relations in every field aside from ethics?

The relevance of all this is far from clear, unfortunately. Because science – well, anything, in fact – deals with relationships between one thing and another, so it follows that an ethic which, say, condemns apostates to death, should be immune from criticism because it’s a belief from another culture? The logic is less than persuasive.

It gets worse:

Martin Amis uses the word “relativist” as one might throw around terms like “sheep-shagger”: it is a straw-dog argument, only one step removed from argument-by-insult (which Amis also used: claiming Ronan Bennett argues like an “idiot”). Yet Amis goes on to show how easy it is to slip into relativism. He says: “The ethos of relativism finds the demographic question so saturated in revulsions that it is rendered undiscussable.” Now demographics, of course, is a maths question: it is the science of comparing population levels relative to one another. Far from placing demographics beyond debate, it is only relativism that puts it up for debate in the first place.

I’m not at all sure I understand this. He appears to be arguing that, by mentioning demographics, which is “the science of comparing population levels relative to one another”, Amis has slipped into relativism. Is that what he’s saying? No, I don’t understand it.

Anyway, what on earth is a straw-dog argument? Is that something you have about gratuitous violence in the movies after watching a Sam Peckinpah film?

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6 responses to “Relativism”

  1. Dom Avatar
    Dom

    Here’s a pretty sharp remark from the comment section:
    “What’s next? An article complaining about why we think serial killers are bad when we all have serial numbers on our computers and Ipods?”

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  2. dearieme Avatar
    dearieme

    You know that you need read no further when you reach “Modern physics is all about..”.

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  3. Martin Morgan Avatar
    Martin Morgan

    Blincoe is an absurd solipsist:
    The moment before I ran on stage at the Barbican, I was more conscious of my pulse rate than I have ever been in my life. The event was MedFest 2002, a celebration of music from the nations of the Mediterranean. I knew I would be nervous, but hoped adrenaline would see me through. My carefully chosen wear included a pinstriped Savile Row suit, orange tie and a large cotton sheet spray-painted with the slogan ‘Cultural Boycott of Israel’. I left my seat and edged to the aisle, pausing while mycolleague, Chris Dunham, joined me. Then we ran for the stage to disrupt the act of Israeli folk-singer Noa.
    http://observer.guardian.co.uk/review/story/0,6903,738166,00.html

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  4. Tom Freeman Avatar

    He doesn’t seem to have the slightest idea of what ‘relativism’ means, so he ends up knosking down… a straw man? A straw dog? A straw dung beetle?
    Could the article have been a joke?

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  5. Alcuin Avatar
    Alcuin

    Conflation of scientific theories (which are right or wrong) with cultural fitness (in which there are usually subtle degrees of relative advantage) is symptomatic of the sort of muddled thinking that our post-modern infested education system is churning out. Reason is judgemental, discrimination is wrong. So disenchanted are such people that they try to eliminate competition by removing the best. Our kids can see through it far better than any Guardianista, why do you think they fight?
    Kurt Vonnegut wrote a story in which an amendment of the US constitution made it unconstitutional for anyone to be cleverer than anyone else, and those who were had to be fitted with radios that filled their ears with noise. Pity the old fart went politically gaga in his later life.
    Evolution can operate on any system in a competitive environment, from single genes to entire cultures. It is the ultimate end-to-end check of competitiveness, operating with cold and inexorable discrimination (wash your mouth out!), and it will operate on cultural fads like relativism with as much disdain and callousness as it would on a debilitating genetic disease. If our culture adopts such an absurd idea and the Chinese adopt rampant capitalism, eugenics and militant expansion, there will be only one winner, and it will not be the politically correct one. God is not fair, kind, socialist or reasonable. Get used to it.

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  6. Alcuin Avatar
    Alcuin

    Sorry, meant to put derisive quotes around “Reason is judgemental, discrimination is wrong.”

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